Targeted Control for "Cancel Count-Ins/Outs" Action
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Sawyer Lawson
Description:
Currently, the “Cancel Count-Ins/Outs” action applies globally—it cancels all scheduled count-ins and count-outs without the ability to target specific clips or types. Users often need more granular control to cancel only some scheduled actions without disrupting others.
Problem:
In scenarios like switching play groups, triggering multiple clips, or correcting a single mistake, cancelling all pending count-ins/outs is too destructive. Users may want to cancel a count-in for one clip but let others proceed. The lack of targeting results in unintended interruptions during live performance or recording workflows.
Proposed Solution:
- Add standard targeting options (e.g. “this clip”, “play group”, “all clips”, etc.) to the “Cancel Count-Ins/Outs” action.
- Allow filtering by count-in/out type:
- Any
- Count-ins
- Count-outs
- Play count-ins
- Stop count-outs
- Record count-ins
- Record count-outs
This would enable gestures or MIDI actions to cancel only specific pending transitions for the targeted clip(s).
Benefits:
- More precise live control over clip transitions.
- Avoids unintended cancellation of unrelated actions.
- Enables recovery from mistakes without interrupting the intended flow.
- Enhances expressive performance workflows and gesture-based control.
Examples:
- Trigger a breakdown section and cancel only the count-in for the next chorus without affecting the rest of the loop transitions.
- Correct a mistakenly triggered recording count-in without stopping other play or stop transitions.
- Use a contextual gesture to cancel pending actions only for the clip it's performed on.
This summary was automatically generated by ChatGPT-4 on July 24, 2025.
Original Post:
Allow targeting for “Cancel Count-Ins/Outs” action
Currently the “Cancel Count-Ins/Outs” action does not have any targeting options, so it cancels
all
count-ins/outs. Sometimes users might only want to cancel some
of the count-ins/outs.For example, after triggering a mutually exclusive play group to play in order to switch from one section of a song to another, I might then want to cancel the count-in for some of the clips that are about to play (for a breakdown section) while letting the other count-ins/outs continue.
Or anytime I trigger multiple clips to play, stop, or record, and one or more but not all was by mistake, I could fix my mistake while still allowing the other actions that were on purpose to continue.
This action should have all the targeting options that other actions have. Targeting “this clip” is the option I most want to have because I could set a gesture that cancels count-ins/outs for whichever clip that gesture is performed on. But I can see uses for other targeting options as well.
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Toinooz
complete
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Toinooz
This is possible with the 'assign clip settings' introduced in 2.0.
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Sawyer Lawson
Toinooz Are you sure? I think we might be talking about different things. I don’t mean changing the count-in/out settings; I mean cancelling count-ins/outs that are currently happening.
For example, let’s say I triggered three clips to stop playing but one of them was by mistake and I actually want that one to keep playing. Changing the clip settings does not cancel that count-out of that clip, which is what I want to do. Also I still want to keep the same settings, I just want it not to count-out and stop right now.
The “cancel count-ins/outs” action already does exactly what I’m talking about, but it just lacks targeting options that almost all actions have.
Unless I’m missing something, I don’t think this feature is actually complete
ultracello
under review
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Sawyer Lawson
It could also be useful to be able to be able to select what types of count-ins/outs should be cancelled if targeted.
Any
Count-ins
Count-outs
Play count-ins
Stop count-outs
Record count-ins
Record count-outs